Comments for Recovery Monkey http://recoverymonkey.org Musings on backups, storage, tuning and more Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:28:57 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on Marketing fun: NetApp industry first of up to 13 million IOPS in a single rack by Dimitris http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/02/18/marketing-fun-netapp-industry-first-of-up-to-13-million-iops-in-a-single-rack/#comment-14811 Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:28:57 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=686#comment-14811 Hey Vaughn,

A few things:

1: This was a tongue in cheek post (yet still technically accurate) to illustrate how silly that other vendor’s “industry first” marketing stuff was

2: Rip is right, those numbers are achievable with all RAID levels and I will add are actual real-world numbers and achievable if you have beefy enough infrastructure to push the systems

3: Notice that I did put latency numbers in the performance figures vs the block sizes. The vendor you represent talks all the time about big block performance yet doesn’t show latency for those block sizes… making the numbers pointless.

Thx

D

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Comment on Marketing fun: NetApp industry first of up to 13 million IOPS in a single rack by Vaughn Stewart (@vStewed) http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/02/18/marketing-fun-netapp-industry-first-of-up-to-13-million-iops-in-a-single-rack/#comment-14792 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 21:18:53 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=686#comment-14792 RIP

I wouldn’t make that assumption. NetApp has a history of being transparent with their benchmark configuraitons in order to promote results that are achievable in the real-world. Let’s see what Dimitris shares.

(Dimitris – sorry I got autocorrected with ‘Dimitrius’ in my first comment)

–cheers,
v

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Comment on Marketing fun: NetApp industry first of up to 13 million IOPS in a single rack by Dimitris http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/02/18/marketing-fun-netapp-industry-first-of-up-to-13-million-iops-in-a-single-rack/#comment-14788 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:07:59 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=686#comment-14788 I think you missed the “fun” part in the title and the entire “up to” material in the body of the text :)

So we are unique in that we can do UP TO 13 million sub-millisecond 4K random IOPS in a rack – IBM (assuming they’re talking about similar IOPS characterization) would be unique in that THEY can do 21 million IOPS in a rack, etc.

Trying to educate people how to decipher marketing material.

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Comment on Marketing fun: NetApp industry first of up to 13 million IOPS in a single rack by Rip http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/02/18/marketing-fun-netapp-industry-first-of-up-to-13-million-iops-in-a-single-rack/#comment-14785 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 16:36:15 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=686#comment-14785 He used read IOPS, which are achievable with any RAID level the EF560 supports (0, 1, 10, 5, 6, DDP).

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Comment on Marketing fun: NetApp industry first of up to 13 million IOPS in a single rack by Vaughn Stewart (@vStewed) http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/02/18/marketing-fun-netapp-industry-first-of-up-to-13-million-iops-in-a-single-rack/#comment-14783 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:49:24 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=686#comment-14783 Hey Dimitrius, hope all is well.

That’s some fantastic numbers and kudos on publishing larger and more real-world IO sizes. I’d like to see more of that across the industry. As someone who likes diving into the details, can you share which form of RAID was used in achieving these results?

— cheers,
v

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Comment on Marketing fun: NetApp industry first of up to 13 million IOPS in a single rack by sklise http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/02/18/marketing-fun-netapp-industry-first-of-up-to-13-million-iops-in-a-single-rack/#comment-14772 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 03:00:30 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=686#comment-14772 meant to say its exciting times.. :)

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Comment on Marketing fun: NetApp industry first of up to 13 million IOPS in a single rack by sklise http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/02/18/marketing-fun-netapp-industry-first-of-up-to-13-million-iops-in-a-single-rack/#comment-14771 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 02:57:04 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=686#comment-14771 I don’t get it.. I did a quick search, and i saw IBM has a FlashSystem 840 that would fit 21 servers in a 42U with over 1 million IOPS per server.. what if I put a full rack of servers in, loaded with a software provider such as Atlantis that says they can do 1million IOPS with their software? that would be around 4 UCS chassis with 8 servers each, memory/vmware would be around 32 million IOPS..

Maybe its just me. I don’t see as it being anything unique.

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Comment on An explanation of IOPS and latency by Marketing fun: NetApp industry first of up to 13 million IOPS in a single rack | Recovery Monkey http://recoverymonkey.org/2012/07/26/an-explanation-of-iops-and-latency/#comment-14766 Thu, 19 Feb 2015 00:24:16 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=488#comment-14766 […] of those systems can do 650,000 random 4K reads at a stable 800 microseconds (since I like defining my performance stats), 600,000 random 8K reads at under 1ms, and over 300,000 random 32KB reads at […]

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Comment on NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the new EF560 All-Flash Array by Arthur Alikulov http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/01/27/netapp-posts-top-ten-spc-1-price-performance-results-for-the-new-ef560-all-flash-array/#comment-14743 Tue, 17 Feb 2015 21:13:15 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=669#comment-14743 Dimitris, thank you for as always detailed and solid post. I translated it into Russian. So if any of your readers prefer to read it in Russian, they can find it here – http://alikulov.me/blog/all/novy-all-flash-massiv-netapp-ef560-v-desyatke-luchshih-sistem/

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Comment on EMC conclusively proves that VNX bottlenecks NAS performance by EMC Benchmarketing and SPC’s Impending Irrelevance | Matt Davis http://recoverymonkey.org/2011/02/24/emc-conclusively-proves-that-vnx-bottlenecks-nas-performance/#comment-14462 Fri, 06 Feb 2015 18:46:19 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=238#comment-14462 […] Recovery Monkey [NetApp]: The far more accurate statement is “four separate VNXs working independently and utterly unaware of each other did 124,405 SPEC fs2008_nfs.v3 operations per second each.” All EMC did was add up the result of 4 boxes. […]

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Comment on NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the new EF560 All-Flash Array by #65 Cisco Live EMEA Post-Mortem, EF560, and SPC-1 - Datacenter Dude http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/01/27/netapp-posts-top-ten-spc-1-price-performance-results-for-the-new-ef560-all-flash-array/#comment-14412 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 20:49:00 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=669#comment-14412 […] Guide to NetApp at VMware PEX 2015! Full breakdown of EF560 launch and SPC-1 benchmark results – Dimitris Krekoukias, NetApp […]

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Comment on NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the new EF560 All-Flash Array by Rip http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/01/27/netapp-posts-top-ten-spc-1-price-performance-results-for-the-new-ef560-all-flash-array/#comment-14351 Fri, 30 Jan 2015 21:00:31 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=669#comment-14351 I like to say that the EF technology was designed for performance, and that performance was only fully realized when we leveraged flash. :)

As Dimitris points out, this is a highly efficient, highly optimized platform that was made for low latency, big bandwidth, and great performance value.

Great post, Dimitris

(Disclaimer: NetApp, and former LSI, employee)

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Comment on NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the new EF560 All-Flash Array by Equals42 http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/01/27/netapp-posts-top-ten-spc-1-price-performance-results-for-the-new-ef560-all-flash-array/#comment-14322 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 01:25:46 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=669#comment-14322 It would sure be nice if the top ten report had a column that showed the discount level each vendor had used so you could apply some reality checks without having to dive into each result’s full disclosure statement.

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Comment on NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the new EF560 All-Flash Array by Mark Burgess http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/01/27/netapp-posts-top-ten-spc-1-price-performance-results-for-the-new-ef560-all-flash-array/#comment-14314 Wed, 28 Jan 2015 15:39:55 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=669#comment-14314 Hi Dimitris,

Great post – I just think it is interesting that an array that was designed around HDDs can outperform AFAs that were designed around flash – it just goes to show that a huge amount of CPU resource are required to do de-dupe and compression, etc.

Clearly de-dupe and compression in a number of scenarios (i.e. VDI) are actually going enable an AFA to be more cost effective, but you just feel that the traditional hybrid array is making a fight-back against the AFA and closing many of the gaps.

I have been having an interesting debate over at http://blog.snsltd.co.uk/does-the-all-flash-array-really-make-sense/

Best regards
Mark

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Comment on NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the new EF560 All-Flash Array by @seanluce » Blog Archive » NetApp EF560 and E5600 Link Roundup! http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/01/27/netapp-posts-top-ten-spc-1-price-performance-results-for-the-new-ef560-all-flash-array/#comment-14295 Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:42:55 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=669#comment-14295 […] NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the New EF560 All-Flash Array  by Recovery Monkey […]

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Comment on NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the new EF560 All-Flash Array by Paul Haverfield http://recoverymonkey.org/2015/01/27/netapp-posts-top-ten-spc-1-price-performance-results-for-the-new-ef560-all-flash-array/#comment-14293 Tue, 27 Jan 2015 23:00:06 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=669#comment-14293 Hi Dimitris,

Nice to see NetApp making more use of the space within your arrays – Unused Storage Ratio of ~4.7% is sweet. – Compared to recent FAS results of approx 10 times that.

I do disagree with your statement “However, Application Utilization is the only metric that really shows how much of the total possible raw capacity the benchmark actually used and signifies how space-efficient the storage was.”

“Unused Storage Ratio” is a much better metric to indicate space – efficiency – as it indicates how much of the storage capacity the customer purchased is able to be efficiently utilised at a high performance threshold.

Would love to see a FAS cluster mode result with unused storage ratio at 4.7%.

cheers,

Paul Haverfield [HP Storage]

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Comment on An explanation of IOPS and latency by NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the new EF560 All-Flash Array | Recovery Monkey http://recoverymonkey.org/2012/07/26/an-explanation-of-iops-and-latency/#comment-14283 Tue, 27 Jan 2015 17:30:54 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=488#comment-14283 […] As a refresher, you may want to read past SPC-1 posts here and here, and my performance primer here. […]

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Comment on New NetApp SPC-1 submission – more IOPS per drive than any other vendor, and a bit on write caching by NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the new EF560 All-Flash Array | Recovery Monkey http://recoverymonkey.org/2010/11/09/176/#comment-14275 Tue, 27 Jan 2015 14:09:38 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.net/wordpress/2010/11/09/176/#comment-14275 […] a refresher, you may want to read past SPC-1 posts here and here, and my performance […]

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Comment on NetApp posts great Cluster-Mode SPC-1 result by NetApp Posts Top Ten SPC-1 Price-Performance Results for the new EF560 All-Flash Array | Recovery Monkey http://recoverymonkey.org/2012/06/20/netapp-posts-great-cluster-mode-spc-1-result/#comment-14272 Tue, 27 Jan 2015 13:17:55 +0000 http://recoverymonkey.org/?p=404#comment-14272 […] a refresher, you may want to read past SPC-1 posts here and here, and my performance […]

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